You bought the game from the Grim Dawn web site, but Humble processed the payment. So assuming you did buy the Loyalist package you are entitled to the DRM-free version and the virtual goods once released.
Hopefully that will be soon. 
Now Iâm hearing that people donât want to get a stand-alone build they can download off humble and install, they want it on GoG and to use that update service? That seems contradictory since, if you install GoG Galaxy, how is that really much different than Steam? I legitimately donât know.
You are right, there is no difference. Steam, GoG, Humble⌠They all require registration and or log-in to use their service, which is not the same as a DRM-Free offer.
On the question of the DRM-Free version being an afterthought⌠I have to agree, just as you did, that it was; and there should be no denying that. Since your KS, several promises where changed or reneged. Like non-steam-only access to Alpha/Beta, deadlinesâŚ
Having an actual DRM-Free version unavailable compiles to that pre-existing list. That also means you didnât spend any extra time or effort into doing something you said you were going to do from the beginning.
What I would like to know now, as I have had a âkeyâ for for GD since 2012 (KS key), will an actual DRM-Free version be made available? That means not having to register into a third party site in order to download the DRM-Free game. Is that actually going to be provided? or are you once again going to renege on what you based your KS sales / advertisement on?
The difference between Steam and GoG is that you are not forced to use GoG-Galaxy for downloading and installing your game.
The Steam client is not optional, where GoG Galaxy is, you can still download your game and game updates as individual executable files.
So GoG is indeed DRM-free in every game they sell, even if you can use GoG Galaxy(if you want to)
Registration does not have anything to do with DRM, as you are never required to log in again after having installed the game, you can store the games on another hdd and install them on your new computer without issues, so I donât know how you can claim that there is no difference.
Humble can be DRM-free, but they arenât always.
Registration does not have anything to do with DRM, as you are never required to log in again after having installed the game, you can store the games on another hdd and install them on your new computer without issues, so I donât know how you can claim that there is no difference.
We will have to agree to disagree on what defines âDRM-Freeâ, as we seem to have a different understanding of what DRM is (or how it functions or is defined).
Digital rights management (DRM) schemes are various access control technologies that are used to restrict usage of proprietary hardware and copyrighted works.[1] DRM technologies try to control the use, modification, and distribution of copyrighted works (such as software and multimedia content), as well as systems within devices that enforce these policies. *Wikipedia
DRM: digital rights management: protection of copyrighted digital content by means of technologies or systems that restrict its use and distribution. *dictionary.com
DRM: Short for digital rights management, a system for protecting the copyrights of data circulated via the Internet or other digital media by enabling secure distribution and/or disabling illegal distribution of the data. *webopedia.com
A third party distributor, that requires registration, is a means of controlled distribution. No registration, no download. Thus, digital rights have been managed.
Again, we will likely have to agree to disagree.
Itâs a bit of a semantic difference at that point. With GoG games, once you download them itâs not bound to anything else and you can do what you want with it.
You got a point, but strictly speaking an old school âserial keyâ on the back of a booklet is DRM as well.
of course what you download can still be DRM free, so the above is pure nonsense⌠what did you expect, a site everyone can freely download it from ?
Since your KS, several promises where changed or reneged. Like non-steam-only access to Alpha/Beta, deadlinesâŚ
non-Steam alpha/beta access was never promised, deadlines of course were missed
Having an actual DRM-Free version unavailable compiles to that pre-existing list. That also means you didnât spend any extra time or effort into doing something you said you were going to do from the beginning.
clearly they did spend some time on it, something not being done yet also does not mean it never will be done, chances are in a few days the promised DRM free version is available
What I would like to know now, as I have had a âkeyâ for for GD since 2012 (KS key), will an actual DRM-Free version be made available? That means not having to register into a third party site in order to download the DRM-Free game. Is that actually going to be provided? or are you once again going to renege on what you based your KS sales / advertisement on?
yes, there will be a DRM free version, I do not recall any promise to make that download publicly available to everyone (which is what you are essentially asking for).
Before you complain about broken promises, at least get right what was promised in the first placeâŚ
You are probably right on that one, but do you really think that there is no difference between Steam and GoG?
Anyhow, if you were to distribute a game without GoG, Steam, Humble or similar sites, you would have to provide a server that could upload the game to all the players downloading.
Though Undertale can indeed be downloaded through a torrent, which is pretty neat.
There is no semantic difference, just a plain difference: No registration = No download.
Yes, and âold schoolâ key is DRM.
In my book, DRM-free means that thereâs no control upon getting the game.
The GOG version will be sent with serial numbers which means a login system is going to be integrated inside the game and weâll then be required to login to our GOG account each time weâll want to play online (excluding LAN).
So no, thatâs not really DRM-free for me either.
But at least, weâll most likely not be required to launch Galaxy or login to GOG to play the âsingle playerâ/LAN modes.
Thatâs one of the oldest and least intrusive DRMs out there
By that standard, everything thatâs not freeware has DRM, which is a standard so strict as to remove the point of having the term.
I understand that you espouse this particularly stringent point of view, but thereâs no reason to go on belaboring a point with which most of the rest of the world disagrees.
non-Steam alpha/beta access was never promised, deadlines of course were missed
Not according to GD employees. That access was promised via KS, and reneged do to internal logistics.
but do you really think that there is no difference between Steam and GoG?
Yes, as far as DRM is concerned, I do. From GoG: ââŚhowever whatâs differ us from Steam is that you need an account only to download installerâŚâ. Without an account, you cannot download, thus DRM.
but thereâs no reason to go on belaboring a point
Iâve yet to receive one of their KS promises. Without âbelaboringâ the point, what remains may also be taken away.
Thanks Iâm patient, just a little confused (which is my natural state of mind).
The games themself on the GOG platform are DRM-free by definition.
You are misleading the game (that is DRM-free and fully disposable for the legitimate owner) with the distribution platform, in this case GOG, that requires an account in order to prevent potential abuses of the system. Games have no protection or restrictions, the registration is only related to the GOG distribution mechanism, and since your games canât reach you flying in the sky i think this is a good compromise.
Edit: I admire you developers for the way you are handling this s**tstorm, and i will purchase grim dawn on GOG as soon as it will be released. Keep up the good work.
Funny, some steamboys say that Steam is NOT a DRM,
other steamboys say that ALL is DRM.
Itâs difficult to find steamboys between those two radically opposed opinions.
âSteam is not different, itâs the best, all other opinions are paranoĂŻa.â
Steam is just a 3rd party that makes sure the games are up to date.
I have bought from humble and it was steam keys.
Never tried GoG. Did not hear about GoG before this thread started
well in that case it is your own damn fault for believing they would follow your definition of DRM free⌠according to your above logic you expected the game to be freely downloadable and playable by everyone, clearly that was never promised or intended
no, it never was promised, not in the KS nor anywhere else.
the latter was not a steam fan, just a misguided individual.
As to the former, that is just a fact, it depends on what Steam features a game uses, Steam can just be a distribution platform just like GOG, if it is more it is so because the developers chose it, not Steam.
You do not have to be a fan to point out facts, you have to be the opposite or ignorant to treat them as fiction thoughâŚ