Backer Rewards and DRM-Free Copy

It’s the solid state society man!

IMO later release date for DRM free version of Grim Dawn is non issue. It is much better to have more polished version of a base build for DRM free version.

I bought the game from Humble Bundle and not steam, I thought that I will get the DRM-free copy later. But in fact I should have bought it on grimdawn.com to get this holy copy.
Let me understand, people who paid the same price for this game, on steam, humble or here won’t get the same services ? Is that right ?

Personally, I dont care. But I understand why some buyers are not happy with that.
Maybe I should have born in an English speaking country, I would not have done this mistake. That’s my parents’ fault, I guess. I will call them to get some explanations about that ! :stuck_out_tongue:

I have the game, I can play ( sort of, since B31 the game like to crash a lot ), so who cares !

In order to get the DRM-Free version, you had to be a KS backer, or order from the Grim Dawn web site. That’s the bonus for having backed the game during KS, or backing the devs more directly for buying from the web site.

So different stores offer the product and provide different services.

I’d always had positive impressions of GoG beforehand, but it was more a mild interest to see where it would go.

I’m happy with using Steam and I’ve never had issues or even any need for support or anything like that. I’ve already got all my games here and I’m in no way concerned they are suddenly going to disappear.

GoG’s concept is nice but at this stage in the game I don’t foresee them taking on Steam in any manner that’s going to worry them… Best case scenario the competition will force Steams hand on support practices. Which is already in evidence anyway with many of the recent changes concerning refunds etc.

Competition is healthy for the market I guess. So be it.

Just hope this digital citizen crap takes a 2x4 to the face tho.

Most stupendous thing I’ve heard this century and thats considering we’ve had bath salt users eating homeless men’s faces in Florida.

Yup Digitize me Cap’n Crunch.

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Yup, it’s really a matter of communication on Humble’s part, but I checked and (at least now) it clearly says that their copy requires STEAM.

If we’re down to why the same product is priced differently at different places, or a slightly different product is offered for the same price at different places, then it’s about consumer awareness. You can’t really yell at the baker because the supermarket is selling his bread from yesterday, and you can’t really blame the supermarket either for you not going to the baker.

Yes but my baker speak my language, that helps ! =p

Just wondering, what do you mean wandering around? I used him recently and he didn’t seem to go off doing anything unexpected.

When I do use pets I always just use the Select All Pets key, which I take off the default bind and set to the tilde key~, and I set all of them to aggressive and then usually command them to spots in front of mob groups. If they start to get separated from each other I’ll command them back to a new empty spot to regroup together again.

This has always worked pretty well for me.

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Holy crap that would make a great signature…

I honestly do not get what all the drama is about here. I mean, I’ve had my issues with Steam over the years, but overall I’d say that it’s more convenient for me to have a bunch of games on one web site than it is to try to keep track of/not scratch 527 cd’s. DRM is annoying, no doubt, and in a perfect world we wouldn’t have it. But keep in mind that DRM was a reasonable response to a bunch of hippie douchebag losers from all over the world pirating software.

If you guys are concerned about your privacy being violated b/c you’re honest and don’t feel like you should be treated like a criminal, then the internet is the wrong place to be…ever wonder why you get so many porn ads on your browser after visiting porn hub? Or why you magically get a bunch of f150 ads on your browser after perusing the Ford website? Businesses can track all kinds of user data these days, heck, they can even figure out who you are and what your phone number/address/etc is sometimes just b/c you visited their website one time. DRM is a pita, but there are far, far worse things out there than that. I certainly wouldn’t let DRM, or lack thereof, influence me in any way regarding a game I wanted to play.

Keep going mofo, Dick Van Dyke was dancing to Mary Poppins tunes the other day on a Disney Special.

FYI, you can play the game on 3 different computers in 3 different states by downloading it from steam. Just run steam in “offline mode” on them after you install them, then log in to steam whenever there is a patch that you want to download.

You have a valid point. Grim Dawn is a perfect game for GoG actually, as people are happy to pay money for it rather than only interested in a “free” version like they are of so many other games out there. It’s kind of hard to view Art’s 6 years of back breaking labor as the work of an evil “SuperMega Corporation”…

Look in the FAQ if your game is crashing a lot, you might need to repair your installation.

I recommend that anybody who wants the DRM-free version of the just buy the game again, this time directly from the web site. Just to be safe. And, if enough people do that and we get an a5 in 3 months as an added bonus, then all the better.

As I stated above, I actually like Steam, but you should not be so confident that your games are not in jeopardy with them. I got a text from them 15 months ago stating that some mofo from the UK was trying to hack my account, and they told me that I should lock it to prevent this. So, guess what, I sent the code to lock it. It took me a full 14 days of full court press to get them to unlock my account, and I got no apology, no sense of rush that I wasn’t able to access all of my games, nothing. It was literally the worst gaming related experience of my life. It forcefully reminded me that I’m only “renting” all of these games, I don’t really own them. I missed the launch of beyond earth, and I had planned to start playing Grim Dawn back then, too, but by the time my account was unlocked I’d moved on to other endeavors. I shudder to think what would have happened if my email account had been hacked instead of my Steam account getting locked BY ME. Steam customer service sucks, I just think that they’re generally the lesser of the evil options open to us. GoG is much more consumer friendly, I’d happily put 1/2 my games on GoG and half on Steam, but the way it works out is more like 90/10 in favor of steam. If GoG gains more traction in the long run then I’d be interested in using it more, I just don’t want to look up in 8 years and have 47 games on steam, 11 on GoG, 6 on some other service, 3 on another one, and 1 on several others.

Forgetting for a second how I feel about Grim Dawn and STEAM as specific cases, from a theoretical perspective I could not dissagree more with the above.

DRM was a very UN-reasonable response to a bunch of hippie douchebag losers from all over the world pirating software.

It is UN-reasonable because it has significantly hurt legit consumers while leaving that “bunch of hippie douchebag losers” practically unaffected. As “that bunch” was operating out of bounds to begin with, they have always had very little trouble adapting to whatever kind of DRM was introduced. Also, somewhere along the route some publishers turned “let’s prevent illegal copying” into “let’s rent out software instead of selling it, but keep the prices the same”. Think SecuRom, Spore, pre-STEAM Red Alert 3, Ubisoft, or most notably Assassin’s Creed. Recently things don’t tend to get thát bad anymore, hopefully because publishers have also realised it isn’t working. DRM might have kept pirated software out of the hands of a few, but I am convinced it has driven many more straight into the arms of “that bunch”.

I bought this game as backer i payed 50$ for this game and it shouldnt be selled at humble… I want this game at gog i want a drm-free version of this game. nyse bnm ing bitti bb

+1 this is unacceptable . We must get it from GOG . I am not elitist or fanboy but this guy is %100 right . We have rights for it . Because we are early backers . So in nowadays early backers mean = fucked up people ? I paid for a proper product and not get it from an half assed site . A friend of mine even can’t reset his password because Humble can’t deliver mails for him . It’s completely bullshit .

You were promised the game DRM-Free. You don’t get to dictate how that gets delivered and it wasn’t specified at the time.

I am sure Humble version get patches super late and even don’t make an installer , will be package them as a zip file . It will be super lazy and cheap . Sorry man , it’s a lame site for deliver actual DRM-free games . It’s only acceptable if we get our CD-Keys .

Oh, but you are just full of it.

I don’t mind about the DRM-free/gog versions coming later and I don’t agree with the people who feel betrayed but all this Steam fanboy rhetoric makes me puke.

Best thing about this. If the patching process takes too long, they will hopefully just delay it for a bit longer. I want my gaming experience to be as close to perfect as possible. :cool:

Hopefully Crate will go through the trouble of packaging a legitimate installer, I’ve gotten some games off of Humble that have them, and a lot that don’t :P.

Why get it from humble when humble isn’t even selling a DRM free version… If waiting for gog keys isn’t an option, then I’ll simply know never to back a Crate game again. No big deal. Humble is unprofessional and sloppy. GOG gives proper updates and installs it.

You must have missed this part of the original post… Or did not read it…

On a related note, we are also planning a GoG release. We should have a version of GD out on the GoG store sometime in March.

Probably because the decision to use the Humble Store was made back in 2013. See Buy Now going down / Humble Store going up. The Humble Store is used to disseminate keys/software that was bought from the Grim Dawn web site or via the Kickstarter.

GOG is being added to the list of vendors to sell Grim Dawn.