Dawn of Masteries

[azazelcz]

Its exactly as you say. Simply and easily the Cata mod is old and havent been buffed, why other were, including the base game. So if you increase scaling of all skills by 60% - 75% (as per the short table i provided above), thats fixed. Although I can imagine going through every single skill will be quite tedius, so best of luck if you decide to this.
Btw Nosferat + Nightblade is my favourite as well, lets pump that cunning up

[Pierre]

No one can expect a modder to test this many classes. Like Mamba said, He is not opposed to it. The best solution is for gamers to become mod testers. Capture it in something like Excel and pass it along. Not everything will be used but it will give Mamba a general idea of which way to go. I would have loved to do it but First. I have no time and Second. I am so noob, I make noob people look pro. Asking me to balance a game would be the worst idea ever

[Nap85]

I think with the Cata classes specifically, they were always pretty well balanced around the original mod, which included significant attribute changes and all the additional components and additional skill points, etc. I don’t know if the classes were ever re-balanced to account for the absence of those changes. I really don’t think Cata needs a tedious rebalancing of each ability, but rather, just a blanket increase across the board to damage for every class and skill, passive and active.

[mamba]

@Nap85

I think with the Cata classes specifically, they were always pretty well balanced around the original mod, which included significant attribute changes and all the additional components and additional skill points, etc. I don’t know if the classes were ever re-balanced to account for the absence of those changes.

no they weren’t, but then Cata included the vanilla classes too, were those rebalanced for Cata? If not, then either they were unbalanced in Cata, or the Cata classes should not be all that unbalanced in DoM either (apart from whatever changes they have been missing out on since)

I don’t think multiplying everything by 1.5 or so would be the correct approach to compensate however

[Faerniir_Delacroix]

There is no need for a rebalance. If you get specialized gear towards the classes, that makes up for the lack of buffs. Not only that, the gear have SPECIAL effects on certain skills in the classes from the mod.

For example, you can get a ton of stuff for the sword and shield specialization class(Forgot the name and it is my favorite from this mod), and the skill from just basic melee is turned into a 99.99% chance to block, with 95% immunity towards damage when blocking, with only 5% of the damage not being blocked, since the blocking absorption is reduced because of a passive by 90% of the max value; 10% being the new max… Which is okay and well balanced in my opinion, since you block almost 100% of the time, have invincibility with a shield and sword, 50x more damage based on the defense and damage your sword and shield have as base stats; When attacking, you get a 50x damage bonus. When blocking, you gain a 50x bonus to invincibility duration when attacking/blocking.

When using the skills, you can change the AoE shout into a stun-locking, high damaging, debuffer that reduces everything down to 0% when effecting between 1 and up enemies on cast. The enemies’ speed, damage, defense, resistances, ability to block, regeneration, all are reduced to 0 while the AoE’s effect duration remains; which has a 45 second duration at level 1.

[Nap85]

The low damage scaling of the cata classes was something I noticed years ago. It’s real. My nightblades shadow strike ability does 11k damage right now. The nosferatus rip ability does 1500 damage with the same number of points invested. There absolutely is a damage scaling problem here.

Mercenaries whirling death has a 25 second cooldown and does 2300 damage. Nightblades ring of steel does over 17k damage (with the modifier) and has a 2.5 second cooldown. Every class I’ve played from cata is the same. I’m not saying they’re all unplayable (although at higher difficulties I’m assuming they get there) and there aren’t legendaries that give a big boost, but they’re incredibly weak compared to vanilla classes.

The original mod had significant attribute changes and skill point changes. The mastery bars also included a lot of extra features like increased damage and resistances instead of just a steady attribute and health/energy increase. I know there were a few versions of the mod that saw big changes, so I don’t know what was re-balanced and when, but it needs it again in my opinion.

[forgamesonly1005]

This is absolutely great work, to combine so many content in one pack. Thank you very much for all, original mod creators and people who combined it all in one.

[larkbc]

My poor Valkyrie, reduced to being a politician. She can yell for Avalon, but she can’t do anything for Avalon. All the other humans with two-handed weapons (except for spears) can use them, but she’s stuck.

[Faerniir_Delacroix]

For my build. My basic melee deals around 50k damage, because of all the elemental explosions, and the complete reduction of resistances and defenses to 0, rendering a critical hit every three basic melee attacks.

With skills, I deal around 250k damage, when I reduce their defenses and resistances to 0 with basic melee. I shield bash to stun them, further lowering their stats by applying a debuff that forces them to take 5x the normal damage. Because of being a critical hit, I deal an extra 25k damage on top of that. I combo into the sweep Slash AoE, drawing in all the enemies around me, while dishing out 40k damage, reducing their speed by 95%. By reducing their speed, defenses, resistances, adding a 5x damage multiplier before hand. The speed reduction also effects their health, burning it away in the process of 12k per second.

Then I deal an extra 3x more damage, because I am using a sword and shield, combo with the skills being activated in an order, adding far more damage to the build. This is without any special armor, rings, amulet, shield, or sword.

If I use the special items in combination with the skill order. I can hit around 12 million on a super strong boss, before it dies in two ticks after initiating the order.

[Pierre]

ugh. I am too old to micro skills like that well I do in median xl mod for Diablo 2 but you have no choice there as ubers can get tricky. My problem is my controller broke… The only games I play with a controller are ARPG’s as it is a lot easier to micro-skills.

[gdff]

Dear creator, I don’t know if my message can attract your attention. The character I use is Oathkeeper + Earth, because I want to combine a flame character with all the passive skills added, and the character is already level 75. The game crashed when I ran to the dark forest. I tried many times but it still happened after more than ten seconds. So I quit the mod, ran the Dark Forest once with the original game, and continued to run it for more than two hours, and the game was still normal. So I think there may be a conflict that caused the crash but I can’t find it. Is there anyone in the same situation as me?
On August 8, 2024, I re-tested, but the result was the same. If I entered the dark forest at the same angle and then moved forward a little further, it would crash. The crash position was exactly the same as before. Afterwards, the character could no longer play the game. After entering the game for more than 10 seconds, Doing nothing will lead to collapse. This time I kept the crash report. Also, I forgot to mention that the most important point is that this is the Chinese version. I don’t know if this has anything to do with it. I hope someone who can understand the crash report can tell me the reason.
7de6eee7-3832-4b20-86bc-207c5b439eea.zip (23.7 KB)

I searched and found that some foreign netizens using the original version had the same problem and it was in the same location [Gloomwald].https://www.nexusmods.com/grimdawn/mods/82?tab=bugs

[gdff]

Hello creator, sorry to bother you, please read my latest message. Tell me the possible problems. I think it is probably my problem, but I have no clue about the solution. Please tell me the possible problems and what I can try.

[azazelcz]

That has 99,9% nothing to do with the mod. Try disabling anti aliasing and turn off shadows. If would bet its a GPU isssue. Or, as usual, reinstall the game. Make sure its really clean, delete registry entries related to GD as well and when reinstalling, pick a different directory.

[mamba]

@gdff

Hello creator, sorry to bother you, please read my latest message. Tell me the possible problems. I think it is probably my problem, but I have no clue about the solution. Please tell me the possible problems and what I can try.

me not replying does not mean that I am not reading your post. Chances are the issue is not you but again some TQ animation. The croc heroes seem to have problems, and they might be around in that area. Will need to upload a new version

[gdff]

Thank you very much for your reply, you are right, I think so too. If the main problem is mods then more people will definitely come out and find the problem. But I’ve met at least three people with this problem and probably others who don’t mirror this problem and just shut down the game, but I don’t want to give up on this mod, I love it. I think this is a problem for a small number of people. It may be some kind of incompatibility that some people will encounter.

[LastingJack]

I have the same problem. Shortly after the Groomwald portal, no matter what I do (enter a dungeon - the screen gets stuck on loading, enter the forest, or anything else), my screen goes black, and the only solution is to restart the computer. I’m using Furibund (Barbarian D3 + Warfare TQ). On vanilla, the game has no issues at all in that area. The settings are on ultra for both versions of the game. By the way, the mod is incredibly good, and Furibund is unstoppable—it’s a lot of fun.

[kerokero]

The problem of characters freezing from Gloomwald to Ugdenbog was already reported on this forum about 20 days ago. You are not the only one who has experienced this, and manba is aware of it. I am sure it will be fixed, so enjoy the rest of the mod for now.

[gdff]

@LastingJack

Groomwald

I can get through Groomwald’s first rift, but I cross Groomwald crossing rift the second rift and go a little further and it crashes, every time. Hopefully this will provide a better lock-in for creators. Just like the picture below.

[bourdon128]

(영어를 잘 못해서 그냥 쓸게요, 구글 번역기를 믿습니다.)

안녕하세요, DOM 모드 덕분에 창고에 넣어둔 GD를 다시 꺼내서 즐기고 있습니다.

저는 원래부터 양손 무기로 강하게 공격하는 걸 좋아해서 GD때부터 샤먼+@, Primal Strike 올인으로 계속 했습니다. 바닐라에서도 PS가 워낙 강력했는데 DOM에서는 그 위력을 훨씬 더 강력하게 만들 수 있더군요. 스킬-재수정 룬으로 목걸이와 반지(*2)에 Korvan Storm Halberd 셋을 끼웠더니, 공격할 때마다 화면이 번쩍번쩍하고 몹들이 녹아버리는 즐거움을 느끼고 있습니다.

Loghorren을 처치하고 Anasteria 퀘스트를 진행할 때마다 망할 네메시스를 이기지 못하고 몇 번이나 캐릭터를 다시 키워야 했습니다(Hardcore로만 합니다). 그렇게 계속 반복하면서 드디어 Ugdenbog까지 왔는데, 맙소사…게임이 계속 문제가 생기네요? 몬스터 스폰량을 줄이거나 옵션을 바꿔도 계속 문제가 발생해서 인터넷을 찾아보다 이 자리까지 오게 되었습니다.

제작자 분께서도 이 상황을 인지하고 수정중이라고 하시니 다행이고, 감사합니다.

다른 질문 몇 가지만 드리고 싶은데요.

1. D3 대장장이가 제작하는 아이템의 힘 요구량이 10000이나 되던데, 이거…정상은 아닌거겠죠?
2. 스킬 재수정 룬을 장신구가 아닌 다른 부분에도 장착할 수 있도록 변경하실 수 있나요?
3. 테러 나이트의 스킬 중 Engage는 근접 무기를 장착해야 사용할 수 있는데, Korvan Storm Halberd를 장착하면 쓸 수 없습니다. 왜죠…?(그래서 테러 나이트는 안 쓰고 샤먼+리프트 스토커를 씁니다)
4. 디보션 포인트는 MOD에서도 55 이상 올릴 수 없나요?

읽어주시고 답해주실 수 있으면 정말 좋겠습니다.

[gdff]

Regarding question 1, the power needs to be 10,000 because this is an exclusive item of the Crusader, changing the two-handed weapon into a one-handed weapon. As long as you use the Crusader to find the power of heaven in the first line of the skill and upgrade it to level 10, you can lift all arms.Of course, the power of heaven is only effective when the Crusader holds a shield in his left hand. Questions 2 and 4 are balance issues so they are not game issues but your personal requirements and the author has their reasons for not doing this.