Runebinder’s set used to be the most favorite of mine. I played it long before I came to this forum. Before FG there was a nerf crusade against Inq and Binders. Runes and set were nerfed.
Now I’m playing this set again and going to make another guide. However, before I want to give some feedback.
In general the set is ok and need little improvements This is the build focused on runes. (I know that 1x2 made a Tactician focused on Runic Bolts)
Though full set has additional RR, it has less skill points, less energy regen, less cast speed and less % damage
Issues:
Big (VERY BIG) energy issue. Even with Royal Jelly extract it needs a mana potion from time to time. The real problem.
Low damage if going for Bard’s Harp.
Needs both RR. Otherwise resistant enemies become a real pain
Low damage vs. small targets like Fabius. Also big enemies like Grava take full damage only when you can facetank and shotgun.
Also about this thing:
I test my Trozan Warlock and Runebinder Deceiver vs. Avatar. Let’s look at this like at DPS test. No need to say like “OMG no common player kills Avatar”. The killtime of Runebinder is longer then Trozan, thouhg Trozan has lightning damage and less RR vs. 136 lightning res of Avatar lol
Energy can be PITA, that’s universal problem for lot of non-Arcanist casters as we know, same here. I tried RoK Paladin in the past and have to say that fire rune damage was lackluster even with full set.
Thank you for feedback. Yes, I would ask for more buffs, because 6:30 for build with such monstrous AoE and double RR is a kind of meh. My Venomblade does the same timing and Warlock is 30 sec faster)
I’m playing x1x2’s build, it’s quickly became one of my favorites. The Tactician has no problem with energy, but I’m certainly going to try your build, it’s really easy to gear. I might try some changes to pants (green) or boots.
Well I can’t even do 6.30, but that’s another topic of discussion. I mean one can understand the decision of not buffing something which work, though. But energy is not gonna improve damage, but QoL. After all it’s casters set.
Have you tried it with Andros Amplifier instead of Spelldrinker (Although Spelldrinker has very nice absorb for energy)? You basically double your flat on RoK at the cost of some % elemental to RoH and Stormbox. Is RoK the weakest skill of the three for play?
Also, since the mobs resist vs energy leech has been reduced in last few patches, would not Arcane Spark be valuable?
6:30 is surprisingly good for this build! Have you tried Tome of Atonement? Also, Wymrscale gloves => Haggarads/Ignafars/Cinders? For energy maybe drop that silly Behemoth and do this: https://www.grimtools.com/calc/M2g9vzyZ? But I don’t see how you can have trouble with 100% energy absorb, just don’t kite, lol
Which variant of the build did you try and where? Cause I remember I still had to use lots of potions on the lightning one due to it being a hybrid caster.
@Dmt no qualms on energy suggestion but as for damage I feel like the runes themselves should be what’s buffed. The damage penalty should be further decreased in RoH. Like make it 10% and test if it’s in a good place. Agree with elemental dots.
Also, I wanna add that as for the runic bolts portion, I think it needs more attack speed. Autoattacker 2h items generally have 15+ attack speed while runebinder only gives you 12 on the granted skill.
Or just scrap everything and add 50% pierce to elemental on 5 pc set bonus.
I’ve only ran in in crucible a few times, not in SR yet. Just ran it a couple hours today, and I don’t know if I’ve ever used any amount of potions of any kind to any great extent. I built it almost exactly like yours as shown on Grim Tools except for boots although I did put a few points in spirit. I’m pretty poor at theory crafting so I’m a bit puzzled.
Those proposed quality of life changes seem very reasonable. I also agree with x1x2, slight to moderate damage buffs to runes is due. Time to bring them back a bit.
I think Runebinder ’s set and Inquisitor are already strong enough.
And this set should pay attention not only to the strength of the rune,
but also the weapon attack and WPS strength when using the full set.
It should not be forgotten that these are not separate elements,
but a set with the advantage of being able to use both simultaneously.
With regard to energy issues,
the update allows energy to be absorbed from the bosses,
making it easy to cover any build with constellations and components.
I tend to agree with this but this is a feedback thread and the OP is entitiled to her findings.
Also… If the devotions with energy focus are never to be used, then these devotions should be improved (again!). What is the point of a devotion like harvestman if it is shunned even if energy is required for a build such as this?
*that was retorical as most of harvestman’s effect can be found cheaper and in tier 1 devotions and/or only taking the first node of harvestman is efficient in some cases.
Sometimes I use constellations - Viper,Revenant (and also harp!)
(and component - like SoulShard, and with for reduce energy costs).
Even with energy-intensive builds like EoR,
there is no longer any energy exhaustion compared to before the update.
And since there are things in the mastery skills that have energy absorption and regenerative effects,
when combining Inquisitor with those masteries, the problems related to energy are further eliminated.
In this way,
Because there are already means that can be dealt with by combining various elements,
I don’t think it is necessary to apply energy regeneration effects to specific equipment.
You probably mean the Presence of Virtue in Oathkeeper mastery? I think this is another example of how tough it is to find balance. There were number of feedback threads/complaints how tough is to sustain EoR and how players quit because they can’t use their favorite skill due the insane energy cost and also some than consider EoR too cheap compared to other channeling spells.
But for casters oriented set it’s shame to have diminutive energy regen. About devotions, Harp it’s still used very often. Harvestman it’s not. But the problem is not the utility, but the weird affinity cost.
Runebinder is strong enough, but the things it supports aren’t (ranged is decent but runes are bad) and it isn’t enough to carry runes, that’s why I suggest to buff runes instead of runebinder. And while it is possible to play both ranged and runes at the same time, you won’t have the best of both worlds that way. IIRC some guy tried to do that back in AoM and pure rune was always better than rune+ranged. And pure ranged was better than hybrid as well. This is due to the fact that the weapon isn’t really better than a 1h + book combo.
As for inquisitor itself. Inquisitor is strong, but as support. All of its damage skills have been gutted and while box and ranged remain kinda decent in some ways, they’re not main damage dealers. Rune (both of them) is in the dumpster right now. FoI… Don’t even talk about that.
Yes,but AR / SH / NB also has the capacity for energy regeneration and absorption.
For example, when talking about INQ,
it will be necessary to take into account synergies with INQ alone.
In addition,
If we pursued only to output damage easily, and required a solution to solve energy problems for specific sets.
(without considering “constellations / components” related to “energy absorption / regeneration / cost reduction”)
I think it is a childish idea.
