Yeah, Rhis actually did a pretty good job on the controller for a first swing at it. It’s not perfect and does somewhat limit what you can do as far as how many skills, inventory management et cetera but as long as you’re fine with that and just feel like kicking back and killing things it gets the job done.
I’m sure the coming improvements will make it much better and I’ve been waiting since they implemented it for him to make improvements here. I knew they would eventually.
You mean the game that dropped all sorts of options from D2, and was basically console-depth at the start? The one where you don’t really have to think, just kill things? Hm…A game with few to no viable options…Nothing but killing without thought, forever…Doesn’t sound far off from Halo, does it? You’re not disproving my point, you’re making it for me.
Engine has been significantly modified since TQ. Do you remember post-effects, depth of field, specular on terrain or soft particles in TQ? GD was also upggraded from shader model 1x to 2x. Along with visual changes, we implemented a totally new pathing engine, new physics engine and more multi-threading (performance just hasn’t improved much because there’s more going on in GD, in terms of physics, loading, etc).
That’s nice to know. FTR…Haven’t PLAYED TQ. I think I may have mentioned that before. It does suggest that I shouldn’t bother playing TQ though, if you’ve made all these improvements…So you’ve saved me some cash
I can call you C Note and that doesn’t make it your name. D3 left ARPG behind a long time ago. It fits, technically, in the genre…Just like technically, a 3X shirt will “fit” anyone under that size. Not well, but, you know…Technically, it’d cover you.
Who really cares? D3 was built from the beginning with every intention of being on console. Hence why it is like it is. GD however was not. They might tune some things down to fit the format but I doubt it’s going to be as watered down as D3.
You read entirely too much into things it appears, much more than is warranted by far… Which brings us back to the loose screws =/
Dropping a game just because it’s getting a console port is pretty… silly, if you ask me… especially on the fact that it won’t affect you in the slightest, and just shows how little faith you have in Crate in delivering a good game for both PC and Console players, just because of what Blizzard did with Diablo…
It requires DX11 and we’ll also need to do a bunch of work to get decent frame rates on there. We won’t be changing anything else about the PC version that will affect gameplay but it will get these engine improvements and some additional controller functionality.
We also are planning another “spin-off” game that is based on GD but a somewhat different kind of game.
The totally new non-GD project we’re working on uses Unity.[/QUOTE]
If you see ten people walk off a bridge, do you REALLY want to stick around to see the eleventh? Blizzard had far more advantages to Crate, and even designed D3 with Consoles in mind, and the PC version still suffered for it. Crate is smaller, with a smaller community, less funds, less people working on the project, and AFAIK, did NOT design GD with consoles in mind.
Let’s try saying it another way. I’m a fairly steroetypical nerd, glasses, not particularly strong, thin…If I see a pro wrestling team get their hind ends kicked by a guy, do I REALLY want to go try and fight him? No, it’d be insane to think I could succeed where the wrestlers could not. Crate trying to do an Xbox port is the nerd in this scenario.
As for all of you fixating on my example…Blizzard is not the only company bigger than Crate that I’ve watched try and fail a “successful” console port of a PC game. Blizzard certainly is a compelling example, but not at all the only one. I’m just sticking to them as I don’t particularly feel like arguing multiple examples where one would suffice.
Or perhaps you like ignoring history. You would certainly not be the first, and I’ve done it before myself…But that doesn’t make it any better or more sensible.
Query: Are you somehow intending these “loose screw” comments in a non-offensive manner? I’m trying pretty hard to ignore them, as I really can’t see a use for that phrase that isn’t insulting. I’m hoping it’s just a translation issue, because I don’t take being insulted well.
Just my opinions follow:
Expansion is coming in forseeble future. Game will be around balancing only after that. So After expansion release, they can easily “copy” build and “downgrade” it for console version. So they will have much more time to play with console version. I think that it is really manageable.
EDIT: I do understand your worries but they are doing it in proper order, they didnt developing both version at same time. That is significant diference.
Nope. I’m being insulting in the hopes something sinks in at some point. Not holding my breath here. Your level of fixation regarding this is getting mildly annoying and it’s clear your method of reasoning is so far off the tracks I have no alternative but to suspect you’ve taken too many Xanax today.
You sound like how my ma acts after she’s popped her Xannie’s and drank two beers. Totally psychotic. Totally unreasonable. A person you just can’t but help strongly disliking.
The Unspeakable Horror might be the hardest boss for first playthrough but NG+ should be a cakewalk imo. He was pretty easy to avoid, i was low on HP and died when i missed the timing. Fight takes patience but can be done
And i doubt he’s the hardest boss in the game then again i just beat The Sodomized Knight in The Festering Banquet so no idea what lies ahead
EDIT:
Is The Hollow Knight like Dark Souls as well (in terms of difficulty?)
It’s really weird to me that people think ARPGs are better played on a mouse and a keyboard. Don’t knock D3 on console until you try it. The game is pretty shallow for obvious reasons, but the gameplay is damn good and very fun with a controller. In fact, the gameplay is really the only fun part of D3.
There are no skills in Grim Dawn that really benefit from having the precision of a mouse other than ground-targeted abilities, and that benefit isn’t really big deal, they work on my controller just fine. Maybe your control isn’t quite as precise, but these games are not hard, a little more difficulty is a good thing imo.
Movement in isometric arpgs with a mouse is tedious. With a ranged character you have to fling your mouse back in forth to attack and retreat in between cooldowns to create more space, this also generates an insane amount of left clicking on the mouse. This isn’t skill, anyone can do it, it’s mindless. There is just. so. much. clicking.
I have played arpgs for the last 15 years and consider myself a PC gamer 100%, but after playing d3 on console and Grim Dawn exclusively with a controller on PC I don’t like playing ARPGs anymore with a mouse/keyboard setup.
I’d like to know a reason you have to dumb down games to work on a console with a controller, it’s just a different input method on a less powerful computer.
Number of buttons. That’s why. Count your controller buttons. Look at your keyboard. Realize the difference is so large you don’t need to bother counting.
they made quite a few changes actually, compared to TQ/IT… what stayed the same is that a lot of calculations happen in the main thread, resulting in a CPU bound game
Making a game properly multithreaded is not easy, not sure many get optimized in that regard even today
