Well said.
It’s been a long wait to this point in time and a little longer is certainly manageable. Besides, it’ll give me the chance to squeeze some more enjoyment – and possibly an as-yet-undiscovered legendary item or two – out of TQIT.
TECHNOmancer
that’s totally cool
IMO, both D3 and TL2 were released before they were ready
I’m looking forward to trying out Neverwinter as a healer and seeing what it has to offer
I’ve been playing the free trial of Rift as a healer, maybe I’ll buy a 30 game card and try past level 20
I am STILL excited for Grim Dawn will wait anxiously and patiently for it
It’s just hard when the release date get pushed over, again and again. I think that’s why people are so impatient. When you have a date, yes you trill, but you aren’t stressed, you just wait for the countdown to reaches 0 then get a sleepless night, call sick at job and forget your kids for a week.
With GD we’ve been long without any date, then relative dates, that got pushed back (ref. two Alpha updates), and the last estimation we’ve got is rather informal and imprecise (http://www.grimdawn.com/forums/showpost.php?p=89305&postcount=72). Also considering there a lot of people waiting for it (they’ve already paid their alpha access), and that for a week now we’ve seen the “private” alpha going on, no surprise people are on the edge.
I think if you could release a specific date (with hour) for release it would ease the tensions (while DDoS your site at the same date…). But keep up the good work, and release GD only after full triple fermentation. 
Oooh forgot that releases tommorow thanks for the reminder guess ill bide my time there and drop it like a wet noodle when GD Alpha comes out 
I know it is apparently hard for you guys to give us an estimated date for the alpha but, indeed, having a better “estimation” will release some tension.
Heck, even if that means “alpha is postponed to Q3 of 2013” at least some of us, including myself, will stop being on edge while constantly checking the forum :D…
Not that I wish the alpha to be released in June or July, hopefully it will be before: I am leaving the country during that period and won’t have a lot of time to play, and if I do it will be on a crappy tiny 11" screen ^^".
So hopefully it will be May, that’s when I’ll have time for it. 
Feels like the Black Mesa forum circa December 2009 in here. :rolleyes:
Don’t worry folks! It’ll all happen in due time.
Nice tasty morsel! Looking forward to the Alpha. I really feel you should take your time and work on everything you need to rather then rush it.
Don’t want another Diablo dookie laid… :eek:
I would suggest downloading now even though you can’t play until tomorrow
it takes awhile
[QUOTE=medierra;91764]I think that is totally understandable. Before I got into the game industry, I never followed games in development; I only checked in periodically to see whether they were out yet. I expect many people are the same and I’d hope they’d go off and enjoy other games until we release.
We know people are impatient to play Grim Dawn and we are doing our best to work quickly but we’re not going to release the alpha before we feel it is ready. Caving in to that pressure would be no better than having a publisher that dictated our release schedule.[/QUOTE
I can dig that man, nobody should have to cave into pressure but you have been stringing us along a little with the “2 more weeks” posts. When you said it was possible the alpha would be out before 2013 but more like 1st quarter of 2013 you could understand some of us trippin when we are already full steam into Q2.
So I guess you want him to release it when they think it’s not ready? I guess I don’t understand since I read a lot of people get all worked up when things are released when they aren’t ready.
Star Trek the game comes to mind. At least the recent one.
This is a game. No one will die and the world will not end if the game is not released when you want it. Things happen, things get delayed. What’s the big deal?
I understand people are anxious to play the game, including me. However, I don’t want the game released if the dev thinks it’s not quite ready - alpha or no.
I’m sure they are aware of the possibility that it will never be perfect, but I’ll let them figure that one out.
Currently, there is no actual need to release the alpha. Let it take some more time. People want dates, but why, when they’ll have to be changed?
So go play another game and wait until alpha is announced. Easy.
Looks like another delay for Alpha… Not surprising after a few already but still irritating.
I wasn’t talking to you snapperhead, but since you chimed in. An Alpha is not supposed to be perfect. When I signed up for Alpha access I was interested in getting in to test the game not play a demo that has already been tested to perfection.
And for the record, I only “expect” to get what I paid for and what was promised.
Well, the GD alpha is, as medierra has defined, a smaller version of the game. There will probably be some bugs, but nothing game breaking. That is his goal.
The game will come out and you will get it. So be patient.
Now-a days it seems everyone wants things now and then are disappointed when it’s not what they expected.
Reminds me of the D3 release where they had these little updates to hype everyone up before the release.
Ah well…
Heh. Seriously, this is just a game. It’s not like there aren’t many other games to play in the meantime.
Well not nowadays, I’ve red the same “complain” from people called Socrate, Trigone and Hobbs.
Please people calm down, Medierra don’t want the game, even if stapled “Alpha”, to get a bad first impression. Fighting each other won’t do anything for that. Whether or not he is just in is estimation of how ready the game is we cannot know. Therefor any complain of “it’s ready enough” can’t be taken seriously.
Any complain of “I want it now” is legitimate, but keep in mind that Crate isn’t making GD for you, but for every customer and future customer as well as for the dev them self. To that point having a goo release that please both the crowd, the dev thus ensuring a better word of mouth that may secure enough found for an expansion is way more important than only one individual. More so because anything Crate will do WILL piss someone, the community is big enough for that.
Also bear in mind that he is not a PR guy, so it’s normal that the communication skill isn’t perfect.
So sleep thigh tonight, maybe if you’re good enough, Santa Med gonna put a gift in your e-mailbox.
Thanks for the update!
This is really a no-win situation. We say nothing, people get upset that there is no info and are desperate for even a vague estimate. We give our best guess and when we’re wrong, people get upset that we were wrong. :o
Giving a specific date would just be giving a more specific guess, which if we miss that too, will just make people more upset.
When I signed up for Alpha access I was interested in getting in to test the game not play a demo that has already been tested to perfection.
And for the record, I only “expect” to get what I paid for and what was promised.
We’re trying to be open with people about what we’re doing and where the game is at but when we say we’re fixing a couple serious bugs, people immediately jump to the conclusion that this is a bug-free demo.
What we promised was to give people access to the alpha version of the game. After we fix a few of the most serious bugs, the game will still be in alpha and there will still be plenty of smaller bugs and imbalances. There are features that aren’t fully working yet, skill classes that aren’t finished, UI that isn’t done and a lot of work left to write and implement the remaining quests and build out the rest of the world.
We never described that the alpha would be an unplayable mess and I’m not sure I understand why anyone would want that.
The alpha is valuable to us as a means of gathering feedback on fun, balance and content. Having a large number of people playing the game will also help us to find and fix less obvious bugs and compatibility issues. However, it is not only no help to us to have people reporting the serious bugs we already know about but having them play the game while they are present will skew feedback about content and the general experience since these bugs can prevent people from being able to access certain parts of the game.
We do also want people to be able to have fun. We want people to come away from the alpha saying “hey, this game has potential, it is a little rough still but I had fun and can’t wait to see more” rather than “ugh, well, this game is in rough shape, maybe I’ll check back later…”
I’d ask you all to just bear with us a little longer. As much as I don’t want to give another vague estimation, we are very close. It is not my intention so string anyone along and if you’re going nuts, I’d say go check out something you can play now and we’ll let you know when it is ready.
So is this part of the “delay” (if any) of the Alpha?
What other elements have an impact on the alpha which are being look at, if you can tell us anything besides the above?
Edit: I’m merely curious when it comes to what’s going on behind the scenes.
Well said Medierra. Patience is a virtue, especially in game development.
I know everyone wants Grim Dawn to be great, deep down inside, no matter what they are saying on these forums.
So you and the rest of Crate just keep doing what you’re doing (a.k.a. being awesome devlopers).