Seeing as how chats with Dreeg tend to result in insanity, I fully expect the devs to come up with something thoroughly… entertaining.
I just want to see Dreeg - what was it, a thousand lidless eyes that gaze into you with flesh-piercing spines that drip vile acids? This has me curious.
Now that I think about it Uroboruuk will also be around that area. An Ulgrim like boss fight with this guy should you screw up the dialogues would be awesome.
I am also curious what would happen this expac if you are sided with The Chosen-
Kymon: “I must kill all the demons”
Taken: “No, Kymon. You are the demons”
Fight aginst him or along side him?
I’d rather chat / fight along with him than anything else.
And I REALLY hope we get to meet this dude in whatever shape or form
I have been thinking a lot of the truth behind Korvaak and why is he “forgotten” - here is my theory:
What if, Korvaak was ancient Primordial, equal to Empyrion (maybe his bro even). Maybe he was so wicked that Chton/rest of the gods banded together to eliminate him and made everyone - even the gods - forget him as in a way without faith/believe he cannot come back.
As per Mog note in Ancient Grove - Kymon Chosen followers faith in Korvaak gives him strenght and shape - aka resurrecting him.
Key for me is Korvaaks hatred towards Chtonics and how it is depicted in his Tomb that Chtonics stay on vigil over his remains (an eye) - they are afraid of him! Perhaps turns out Korvaak was the First to rise against Chton but the other gods seeing him as worse than their father (Chton)- decided to go against him. Only after that Empyrion led the revolt against Chton, ensuring that they are the victors and can share the future as they fit.
Maybe Korvaak originally owned some/all of the Witch gods portfolio - hence they are so afraid of him and hence there is a lot of similarity between Korvaak`s depiction and some of the Witch gods - they kind of usurped his “free” spot?
Throughout history people can name the same God in a different way and bestow different attributes upon him. As it is I’m 99% sure Empyr was never a separate being.
This is more simple that you imagine, people, I think. GD can’t boast with a multi-layered, thought-provoking plot, so here how it goes.
There are only two actual Primordial Gods in Cairn - Korvaak and Chthon. Across the times, the former one was known after different aliases… Menhir, Empyrion - all of them was he, the one.
The seed of the events is the neverending, ongoing conflict between him and Chthon, ever since the ancient times. He managed to kill Chthon with a spear one time, but then something happenned, which made people to forget him.
False Gods are again, Menhir and others, since they literally do not exist - they are just the faces of one true god, Korvaak.
As for Witch Gods, the reason is even more clear - they are simply afraid. For the long time they were supreme in Cairn, no one opposed them of the equal ground… that until Chthon and Korvaak started to return.
There are several worlds and realities, so Korvaak might have created the Eldritch realm.
Indeed. This is also supported by the fact that Korvaak’s sculptures are also somewhat of an Eldritch origin.
So by becoming the part of Eldritch realm, Witch Gods tied themselves to Korvaak.
Don’t you even touch Menhir:D Hope it’s wrong
What about Mogdrogen? I’m pretty sure he’s a primordial god, plus all the other gods have their devotions and relics…
If it were only two gods, like you said, then not only it would be extremelly lame, but it wouldn’t also make any sense.
Sure, you could try and shoehorn the idea that their powers are all granted by one deity, but even so, that would still be pretty lame and stupid.
Nice summary mate, TBH i was also thinking in a similar vein but my desire for an over-complicated plot involving war between the Gods of Cairn took the edge 
Also i think we need to keep in perspective what Mog says about his peers. In the Grove note he specifically questions as absurd that the being which Kymon worships is Empyrion - i am quite convinced he has seen and knows Empyrion himself and what he feels stirs now is not him but something he cant remember.
Of course it might be as you say but that will take away all the amazing God vs God sub-layer of GD which i so much adore (as big fan of Malazan book the Fallen).
From the Devotion section on the game guide:
“By exploring the world and restoring ancient shrines, you can tap into the power of the old gods and other celestial symbols”
Good find mate
That shrines are another mystery, so far there three types of shrines that I have noticed-
- Normal Menhir type shrines
- Menhir type shrines with skeletons
- Mogdrogen’s Alan Walker look-alike shrine
Personally, I don’t think Menhir and Empyrion are the same. Hopefully I am right
Since your post had such an endearing start, I’ll just come in and say your theory is wrong.
Mogdrogen is described (in his devotion constellation bio) as, iirc, a titan created during the war of the gods. So while he is technically a god, he is also 100% the creation of another, far more supreme deity.
Personally, I do think the younger gods exist, but the theory about Korvaak being Empyrion and thus the slayer of Ch’thon is mighty tempting to believe. Korvaak (through his Messenger), despite his covert nature and possibly evil intentions, states that the world cannot be allowed to return to Ch’thon, i.e. lifelessness with all of Ch’thon’s blood drained from living creatures and returned to the Dying God. So there is definitely animosity between those two in particular…
If Empyrion/Korvaak is a Pelor/Zarus case I’ll be mildly disappointed
As someone who isn’t to familiar with D&D I’d appreciate if you could provide an ELI5 type explanation
Also we also need to remember The Circle of Five and whatever the heck they referred to as “They”.
Says who? Where does it say it can’t boast a multi-layered story? All the extensive lore and amount of characters tells me otherwise. And I’ve seen multi-layered stories with far less than this game has.
Doing ELI5s when talking about stuff like D&D doesn’t usually pan out too well, but basically there’s a theory that Pelor (a Neutral Good god) is also secretly Zarus (a Lawful Evil god) based on various hinky shit happening
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Pelor#Pelor.2C_the_Burning_Hate
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Zarus
Now keep in mind there is actually reason to believe this might be true because we have had gods do weird shit like this before (sometimes in different settings - see the whole Amaunator/Lathander thing in the Forgotten Realms setting)