I just noticed that Soulrend now has +2 to necro. I totally get that the aesthetics of this weapon perfectly fits a class combo with the name “Reaper”. It makes me want to make a reaper myself.
However, Alkamos was NOT a necro. In fact, he was the executioner of Uruboruuk, master of the necromancers. For him to wield a necro weapon would be out of character. It would have been more appropriate to give Soulrend a different class bonus. Maybe inquisitor? Definitely fits the executioner of the rogue arcane theme.
They may have no trouble accepting Uro’s curse in disguise but they themselves did not practice necromancy. In fact, the lore notes in Arkovia state that those discovered practicing necromancy were killed. It was only when Uro refused to die from his repeated execution attempts that the oligarchs desired immortality for themselves.
Regardless, the writers at Crate can fit any explanation they want to explain this. Maybe with a slight edit to Soulrend’s lore blurb to the effect of:
“The right hand of Alkamos, the devourer of souls and tormentor of the wicked. Now seeping with necrotic energies from the anguished souls in the Steps of Torment.”
this description fits the arkovian oligarchs well. they hate necromancy. yet they demand immortality from uroboruuk. hypocrites. so uroboruuk gave them what they asked. they become undead, and so all of them become part of necromantic curse. whether they have necromancer skills or not.
also, alkamos deals heavy cold damage, the damage type closely affiliated with necromancer and nightblades.
I am really interested in how exactly Mogdrogen got ascended in the War of the Gods. And what exactly is a "Titan’’ it seems to be something more special than a regular ascended.
Already thinking about the story/lore that we could expect in GD2 if it comes over a few years.
its kinda confusing what is the definition of titan in grim dawn. mogdrogen is a titan created by something (could be some god, could be some celestial incident). yet in layman terms, titan is a being that is primordial/older than gods. such as kronos is the titan father of zeus the olympian god.
or titan just meant giant beings with godlike powers (mogdrogen can change his appearance, as do other celestials). maybe the simpler explanation are the right one.
Well in grim dawn i don’t think it has the same meaning mytholgy wise, it’s stated that he was created in the war of the gods, and he became the god of beasts afterwards, so in GD’s case i think titan means that he is sort of a champion of some god/gods, but who knows, maybe crate will add more lore and we’l find out how he came to be
Not sure if this was ever discussed on this colossal topic, but…
What are Archon Bartholem and Malkadarr exactly??
Are they some sort of ascendant mini gods, or are they just some random higher tier spiritual beings or something?
It would be nice if they had their own constellations on devotion, with the Archon being a fire/lightning constellation, while malkadar being a cold/vitality or cold/aether constellation.
If I recall correctly, Malkadarr was simply a member of the Death’s Vigil Order who died in combat, and Bartholem seems like some kind of minor deity who serves Empyrion. The fact that he has a tomb is a little confusing.
also, it is unclear whether barthollem is aware about korvak masquerading as empyrion or not. he doesn’t have any response to events in fg. while the attendant and mogdrogen are aware of fg events.
Side with Kymon’s Chosen and send Sister Girra to the homebase.
Resurrect Barthollem and talk to him BEFORE he teleports to the final portal near the Bastion of Chaos, he will be made aware of Kymon’s deception and will get angry about it.
I thought Ulzuin was some kind of demigod, somewhat like Ulgrim.
A god wouldn’t fall in love or get drunk.
In fact, note both names (Ulzuin, Ulgrim) are very similar. Could they even be the same entity? Ulgrim’s name isn’t mentioned anywhere as far as I know right? Even if we are sure at this point that he is in fact a demigod. Not in the notes, or devotions or conversations. Not as a known demigod or god, at least. Whoever he is, he is clearly hiding his true self.
Maybe Ulzuin changed his name after failing to Korvaak or whatever happened with Bysmiel. Maybe he changed it after the Grim Dawn (and thus UL-GRIM). He is also the former protector of the emperor, as he could’ve been of Korvaak -another emperor in his own way-. It is highly unlikely because Ulgrim doesn’t get involved in any way in the events of Forgotten Gods, but whatever.
to me ulzuin is a god. from what i’ve gathered in korvan eulogy lorenote, he is the son of empyrion. he is heavily distraught when empyrion doesn’t answer his call for help. this, coupled with the fact that bysmiel, a mere mortal, able to seduce and deceive him while simultaneously humiliating him (the emperor’s best general going away on vacation in nowhere while the emperor and korvan empire suffers greatly…) turns ulzuin’s grief into mad rage. he strike to whatever things happens to be close by him. i suspect that after bysmiel’s treachery, he began despising mortals (excluding mortals that enjoy sowing destructive vengeance) for their inconceivable ability to deceive gods like him (and korvaak too. dreeg got him good). so ulzuin destroys his followers temples and lands too in a bout of madness, rage, and hatred. he is a vengeful destructive god now… yet the game hasn’t explained what happened to him then. the 3 witch are silent about this.
iirc the ulzuin torch constellation explains that ulzuin is the god of ceremony and healing. the demo skills that gives defensive ring of fire aura also explain this power as remnant of ulzuin’s healing power. did gods in grim dawn really can’t fall in love or get drunk? are those mortal comforts completely unnecessary to them? or does gd gods can pursue those mortal comforts at their own leisure? who knows.
still, there are some descriptions in the game that sounds like fire and destruction rains on whatever things ulzuin landed his eye to. there’s an area called eye of ulzuin near the korvan main city. is this a metaphor? is ulzuin’s godly essence diffuses into the korvan lands, thereby permanently causing ceaseless discharge of volcanic rage on korvan city? maybe… does ulzuin and empyrion ever chat with each other?
as for ulzaad. afaik his only descriptions and appearance is in the constellation. thats it.
for naming similarities between ulzuin, ulgrim, ulzaad… do note that most people and creatures in gd often follow some unique naming method according to their group. death vigil’s group revere uroboruuk. so you got names like balvoruuk, haruud, and such. similar pronounciation. they most likely change/earn those name upon achieving some feats in their group.ch’thonian creature has the anatu doth zul thingy in their names.
ulgrim is still shrouded in mystery. creed mentions in his diary about the legend of ulgrim. the game doesn’t explain about this legend of ulgrim yet, aside from creed who seems to believe ulgrim himself is not his real name, but just a name named after the legend of ulgrim (cmiiw, i don’t exactly remember if this is right).
As Architects of Flesh put it, “the flesh is weak”. Gods or other " metaphysical" creatures (like aetherials) tend to get influenced by the physical forms they adopt. Ulzuin probably wasn’t too familiar with the pleasure of the flesh so it’s not too surprising that he became a hedonist to the point of getting tricked by a mortal, and it’s shown multiple times that aetherials get influenced by the minds of their vessels, becoming wicked with hosts like Krieg or compassionate with the likes of Anasteria or Korrinia.
Very unlikely. Creed mentions in a lorenote that Ulgrim is a name of historic significance, so at first he doubts that’s the First Blade’s real name, although he gets his suspicions that he’s not a common human. Later, after he gets informed that Ulgrim not only survived his trip to the void but that he also murdered the shit out of the Loghorrean all by himself, he just gets confirmation that Ulgrim is the real shit.
Changing the topic a bit, is somebody else bothered a little by the existence of the Tomb of Korvaak in the Asterkarn Valley? A scholar says in a lore note found in the Shrine of the Forgotten God area that there aren’t any references in any records about the deity depicted in the shrine, so supposedly no one but Kymon and his followers know about him. Also, the whole point of the Forgotten Gods expansion is that Korvaak is, well, THE forgotten god! Then why is there this very visible tomb in the middle of a snowy valley that even the Black Legion knows about and also refers to as the tomb of Korvaak? It just doesn’t make too much sense. I’d rename that area to something more anonymous, like “Tomb of the Nameless” or “Tomb of Oblivion”.