Whirling Blades is OP

They can only use one while everyone else can use two. Kind of unfair.

And yup, being able to bind devotion procs to these types of auras will be removed since it was never intended in the first place.

You can still bind on hit/on block/on % life Devotions to it, as was always intended.

So are you saying that with next update I won’t be able to put Blind Fury on Whirling Blades ?

Yup, offensive devotion procs are no longer able to bound to Whirling Blades (or any other offensive auras for that matter).

Defensive procs like Giant Blood and Wayward Soul can still be bound.

Where are u farming on ultimate ? Lower Crossing ? GO SoT ! BoC ! Old Town ! Void’s egde…edge of reality etc !

Or are u killing rats in cellars ?

Go in ugdenbog on single player, cause thats where u do most dmg, not in party, and tell me how u anihilate regular mobs with blind fury !

Please do that and come back with a video…

So whirling baldes is unusable on ulti from now on - they just ruined everything about blademaster…omfg…

Just dont make them stack - but dont ruin this !

I forgot that diablo devs are on the team, correct me if im wrong, but do you like to give people something NORMAL and then NERF it ?

That was the only thing happening there - nerf after nerf after nerft - of things that WERE FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR FROM OP !!! omfg how stupid…

This was never intended in the first place to begin with, so it was an oversight. Also, Whirling Blades still give armor and pierce resist.

And last, it was broken. I’m sorry but it was. It literally allowed you to run past enemies and do next to nothing while everything died so fast, even endgame mobs. I know this because i tested it.

I’m not sure how much more this has to be repeated: This behavior is a BUG.

We didn’t “give” you something only to “take it away”. We’re not nerfing the game, we’re fixing it.

This aura (and a few others like it) fundamentally ignore/break the mechanics of the Devotion system. The fact that builds that don’t even do Pierce/Bleed damage want this item doesn’t seem a bit strange to you?

This is the equivalent of finding an exploit that lets you one shot bosses. Because you found something broken and it lets you farm bosses fast, we should just leave it be?

Blademasters were doing fine before this item existed. They are not suddenly hinging on one broken mechanic to be viable since the expansion was released. And if for some remarkable reason that is the case, we will address it elsewhere by tuning their skills/items.

(Also, the ex-Diablo dev on the team isn’t involved with balance, so kind of a pointless reference)

To be fair, if it’s a bug, it’s a bug. As much as we want dw pierce blademasters to perform as well as other builds, can’t really complain when it’s a bug fix.

They are kinda hinging on it for crucible, at least to perform on a similar level with other crucible farming builds. If possible, some tuning to bring performance level back up would be great.

I completely agree - AN OP CHAR is boring ! But Blind Fury is not OP - it should not be taken out of the skills that can be proced by Whirling Blades.
Also I have Assassin’s Mark that gives -32% res to pierce and phys for enemis - will i still be able to put that on whirling baldes ?

But again - take what other classes want from this aura that one shots bosses - dunno what class does…i only have baldemaster…so thats for what i am concerned - and Oleron’s Blid Fury is not OP for Ulti diff - yes it anihilates normal mobs - but where - in lower crossing ?
People who finish game story on ulti farm the hardest bosses - so Blind Fury is not the problem - just take out the skills that are op from that proc.

Dont get me wrong - but overall it doesnt seem like a bug - its a dmg inflicting aura - so it should proc dmg skills - again maybe some are OP - BUT Blind Fury is NOT !

Ans who cares about white normal mobs after u finished ulti story ?

It might not seem like a bug to you but it isn’t intended behavior so it is a bug

Offensive devotion binding isn’t something that only BMs use, other builds use it and according to some it really improved dummy kill times. If it doesn’t seem broken on build “x”, it might be broken for build “y”. The net result is that it is broken and needs a nerf

I don’t mind the change what I don’t like is that it made to the final release but I can’t really complain now. I just hope BMs get some buffs next patch especially with Inquisitor in the competition, BMs could use a buff

OFC ! Blademasters - EXCEPT BELGHOTIAN SET & REEDEMER SWORD (which are very good) - have no new stuff, improvemenets or anything ! just those 2 things and thats it - the new nidalla relic is for acid builds…not blademasters - which is piecrce and phys with some cold - those are primary blademaster dmgs - not acid or poison…

This whirling blades is a little step but a verry liitle step-up to the blademaster as long as it can proc blind fury - again i dunno what is considered about it OP cause i have it on me and it does shit against normale mob bosses. and i pretty much have all end game items for blademaster

Every single blademaster uses Oleron Blind Fury - This specific Dev Skill is not OP - just leave this as it is, and go nerf everything else about it ! Simple !

When I first saw Whirling Blades, I really liked it. Bleeding Trickster plus WB = Awesome!

I didn’t even know that I can use 2 of them. And when I bound Howl of Mogdrogen to it…great. OP? No. There is a cooldown and I couldn’t bind it to any thing else than WPS (not so great…).

Then I bound Falcon Swoop to it. And then it was like Norzan said: I didn’t had to actively attack enemies, Falcon Swoop did it. OP? Ich would say Yes.

Wishes?
Non-Damage Proccs can be bound to WB.

Tried all the above and it seems very strong.

I don’t disagree that it should be fixed. I just imagine that all of the builds making use of this, BM or otherwise, probably need a tweak up. But I know that’s not going to happen, so I hate that they are changing it.

It’s strong but not OP. Whether something is OP or not is relative I guess. If the procs made dw pierce blademasters clearly superior over other builds and classes then it would be OP, but they don’t. Even with the procs, dw pierce blademaster clear speed is still inferior to the top builds atm.

i have a bm myself…

so is it whiling blades powerful, yes, but not i repeat not OP!

i does decent damage for ultimate. nothing more and nothing less. please dont nerf it, because the whole belgothian build relies heavily on proccs, and 2 whirling blades just provide that !

THX

It’s getting fixed, not nerfed, because it was never intended to work like this in the first place. And yes, it is OP, no matter how hard you try to convince people otherwise.

That’s what i was trying to say. It is very sufficient against regular mobs. After all white and some yellow mobs are mostly very weak. But it’s not a huge single damage booster for sure.

I think that even after the fix, the component will probably still be used because of the life leach and armor%. Compared to the haunted steal where it convert 10% physical damage to vitality damage which translate to a dps lost.
Especially to physical damage dealer or builds that would be able to reach 100% damage conversion to their damage type.