Grim Dawn Build Selection Flowchart

[Nery]

including best builds might be a good place to start.

In all seriousness, I would legitimately like to see your list on the best builds in GD - possibly but not necessarily your own builds included. Can I get a ML-approved Top 10?

IMPORTANT EDIT - WITH THREADS

I like to see it as well, bring it on @mad_lee!

[Slev1n]

4.20

4.19

[mad_lee]

But then noobs who have no clue don’t get to tell which ones are good and which ones are not.

And they won’t. It’s impossible without a competitive online element like ladders and stuff. One would think that at this point most players would be following just top builders stuff (and there tons of those builds posted), but from what I see on Discord and forums there are builders that still think that Turtle and 3100 DA will make build tankier (while having 10% slow res and other obvious mistakes) and there are people who follow them.

In all seriousness, I would legitimately like to see your list on the best builds in GD - possibly but not necessarily your own builds included. Can I get a ML-approved Top 10?

I thought about it 100 times. But

• If I include my builds someone will surely call me biased. And if I don’t then it’s not gonna be real top 10
• I don’t care enough, uninstalled GD since the ban and haven’t installed it back since. Been meaning to post my last build (strongest EoR in-the-game which is funnily enough a Pierce Dervish), but only managed to write few lines of the guide in 4 weeks, lol

[grey-maybe]

i wasn’t talking about that one.

[Ceno]

and then there’s build that cannot kill calla (because it’s melee), but does 4.20, what’s then? let’s consider that both can pass SR90.

If this exists I’ll throw it into the top section right now.

Part of the lack-of-comprehensiveness in putting this flowchart together also stems from the fact that I may not necessarily be aware of everything. I kinda made a point about that in the “notes” section of the chart as well:

There’s only so much the forum search function could do for me. Look, I even missed @x1x1x1x2 entirely, somehow, despite knowing the guy exists!

If I include my builds someone will surely call me biased. And if I don’t then it’s not gonna be real top 10

DM me rather than posting it here then. I don’t care about bias. Just want to know what you think.

I don’t care enough

Well that’s its own thing, and I won’t try to convince you of otherwise.

[grey-maybe]

If this exists I’ll throw it into the top section right now.

Part of the lack-of-comprehensiveness in putting this flowchart together also stems from the fact that I may not necessarily be aware of everything. I kinda made a point about that in the “notes” section of the chart as well:

ok, now i know how your metric works.
but i’m to lazy to create a proper threads for those builds, so idk, maybe after the patch.

[Slev1n]

i wasn’t talking about that one.

Sorry

[mad_lee]

DM me rather than posting it here then. I don’t care about bias. Just want to know what you think.

dm’ed, but some links you will have to find out yourself, I just don’t have them

[Evil_Baka]

but what if build is [everything+++] but only like 5.30 crucible timer? and then there’s build that cannot kill calla (because it’s melee), but does 4.20, what’s then? let’s consider that both can pass SR90.

This comes down to what Ceno regards as top-tier, his strict boundaries/judgment on timers and how meta or memey in concept both builds are (which is up to the author’s discretion).

5.30 and 4.20 are tremendous difference in damage.

I’d personally consider 5:30 as passable/solid in terms of Crucible timers - the majority of Crucible builds I see seem to fall within this area. Sub 5m are insane and perhaps should be put in a class on their own but that’s not up to me to decide.

[Dmt]

Builds with the “EVERYTHING+”(or +++++++++ if you’re @Dmt ) tag and a respectable cruci time/SR depth.

There are much more you forgot:

FASTEST CLEANERS IN THE WORLD
TOP STARTER
NO AGGRO ABUSE
EASY-BREEZY SR XX

And so on

[powbam]

There are much more you forgot:

FASTEST CLEANERS IN THE WORLD

Wrong.

[Knife]

Glad to see my man @WyreZ Augur build made the cut! #Augur4lyfe

[Maya]

I think I would nerf something to death if it could tackle every single thing.

[Crittrain]

woopsie (besides pets ofc)

[Maya]

[thepowerofmediocrity]

This: I had brought it privately first to make sure people were okay with me showcasing their builds, as I know people like to keep things private so it doesn’t become so obvious it begs for nerfs. I’ll admit I was hasty in posting it before properly vetting it - had I known that certain Discourse formatting tricks were a lot easier than I initially anticipated, I would have taken more time editing things in my Microsoft notes instead of posting it first and then editing it then. Calling it V1.0 instead of an alpha was just a split-second dumb choice on my effort.

A few things I found when researching for my thread:

1. There are several threads that have the title: “Super MEGA Crucible ROFLstomper” that uses all the broken things that a patch had (Chains of Anguish before the nerfs as an obvious example), then the patch comes around and the thread’s never touched again. It makes it difficult to figure out which builds are meant to be updated and which was for the Crucible World Record times.

2. When it comes to build requests, there’s a whole range to look out for. There’s the “I only want to play the most broken stuff before it gets nerfed cause I like killing things fast” group; then there’s the “I won’t consider a build until it has a level guide with every skill point, every attribute, every devotion point accounted for.” Then there’s the “I want to play with purple, but not too blue-ish purple” crowd which has a mind of its own.

Grim Dawn has more than enough staying power that people will look in these threads 5-10 years after the last balance patch has come and gone. Once there’s no longer a fear of items or concepts being nerfed, there’ll be an explosion of good stuff out there.

[Pirao]

Where’s Maska’s temporal arcblade elementalist? Can’t fin it and I’d like to take a look.

[Knife]

Are there really that many secret ultra powerful builds?

[RektbyProtoss]

Bruh

Sorry, I’m blind sometimes. I’ve managed to literally find, read and laugh about all parts of your chart, but the HC part… Whoops.

Apprechiate the mention a lot in this comedic, but still useful chart!