So by your logic adding more stash space and character slots will hurt the game ? got it.
second post that mentions it, so i have to ask
what is âcharacter slotsâ ?
I assume they mean the ability to have more characters stored in the cloud if using that since thereâs a limit on that.
ye but if thatâs the case, then thatâs a steam issue, right? Crate doesnât control that
Far as I know, yes.
Well, yes, of course.
Yes. It will. You can go ahead and read the thread to see why, I think my previous comments are back on page 703.
Imagine thinking a change like this wouldnât change the game experience of other people. I mean, if it isnât going to change anything, then you donât need it. Thread finished. If it is going to change things, then it will affect my game and Iâve already explained why I view it as a negative change. Youâre basically saying that you know itâs going to affect my game and you donât care that my experience will be negatively impacted, you just want it handed to you on a platter instead of having to make the ever-so-strenuous effort of clicking a few times to install a mod.
GDIA, a mod that currently exists and does exactly what you want can be used without negatively affecting the games of other people.
If more space at hand will be detrimental to your experience, then donât buy/unlock extra chests or tabs. Problem solved, or rather- averted. By default, no action needed.
What are you even trying to say here, because at first glance, it seems like youâre joking or trolling. Can you maybe point to at which purchasable tab that available storage space becomes ruinous to your gaming experience? 6th and 7th are fine, but 9 is a potential danger zone?
This is beyond ridiculous. Is this some humorous roleplaying or something?
There is no joke here. Iâm 100% serious.
Hypothetical situation. Fangs of Asterkarn launches and we get 2 more tabs, bringing the shared tabs to 8 and the per-character tabs to 8. Is that enough? No it isnât, because youâll fill those up in 2 hours of gaming and be back here asking for more.
âI want more storageâ is always, always, always the same as âI want infinite storageâ.
So asking me at what point itâs too much is pointless, because this has never been and will never be about any number other than infinite.
The solution is to stop hoarding items that youâre never going to use. You donât need 17 copies of the Blazeseer Signet, you donât need 4 copies of Kriegâs Boots and you donât need to keep an entire tab for mandates.
If for some reason you do think you need to keep all that, then there are mods easily available that can give you that functionality, without changing the game for everyone else.
Nothing you wrote has anything to do with my questions about your ridiculous declaration regarding these changes and their potential to ruin your game experience, which I guess confirms suspicions about you just joking.
But anyway:
Two tabs are not enough and adding them does not solve anything, yes. And your point is? Iâm not proposing adding them, not sure what youâre trying to say here.
I have no idea what youâre talking about or replying to. Always ,where? You studied 1000 threads about this across numerous hns arpgs and these are the results?
No, it doesnât mean that.
Iâm not advocating for introducing infinite storage, although I wouldnât have a problem with it. But such a feature is most likely, realistically not viable in this ancient engine, so even proposing it doesnât make much sense in a situation where it would require rewriting substantial amount of code.
X-Mod-Hoarder is a pretty solid baseline. Hard to say before the release of the upcoming expansion, but adding one or two extra rows of tabs in the shared stash in this mod would be probably enough. Iâm already assuming a natural mule distribution, where the entire classes of gear are unloaded to specialized characters- shields to the main sword&board guy, magic off-hands to main magic user, pistols/2h ranged to ranged characters, same with 2h melee. Leaving armor, including jewelry and 1h melee class of items in shared stash.
Youâre trying to create some argument, thatâs based on your weird assumptions, and Iâm not sure thereâs anything here to reply to, besides a comment about obsession with infinite stash.
And even if such a feature was introduced, again one more time- how a theoretical option to buy extra chests or tabs would ruin your game?
And again- youâre making bizarre statements based on nothing but your assumptions about what people do with items in their game, which is not only a lie but above all none of your interest. I might want space to keep 25000 scrapmetal shields, and thatâs not a thign you should be worrying about, nor any argument.
If you donât want to collect unique items or whatever else- nobody is forcing you to do so. Still, you feel compelled to advocate against such a possibility for other people who might want to do that. Why? You really have no better things to do? Youâre not even able to specify whatâs actually changing for you in the game.
So far, you havenât presented any reasonable argument against it, just like all other people in this thread, who donât even attempt to go beyond âbecause I donât need it and I donât want itâ.
Do you have anything of substance to say, besides iterations of âI donât want such an option to existâ?
Do you? You just spent an entire screen of writing to say basically nothing.
So youâre already using mods, why do you need to change my game then?
Good. Glad we agree, why are you here?
There argument against more stash space doesnât make sense. There already is an infinite amount of stash space available thanks to muling. Adding more space to the personal and shared stash simply reduces the amount of muling you have to do making it purely a QoL change for the better.
Now would that extra space immediately get filled with junk items? Yes of course, why would you have empty stash space to begin with. However, those items would gradually get replaced with a lot better items.
Rather than more inventory space. A way to make blueprints from items that are eligible (like blues and purples) so I donât need to keep them piling up would be better for me.
Historically we have gotten an extra stash tab or two each DLC (IIRC).
I was curious about this so I read all your previous posts in this thread. You keep repeating that more stash tabs would hurt your gameplay experience, but you never really explain why and how.
You mentioned how you donât want to deal with 600 stash tabs in PoE which is understandable, but since we are talking about less than 10 tabs in GD, thatâs more of an argument against infinite stash than against 2 more tabs.
You also keep repeating that everyone who wants 2 more tabs actually wants infinite stash, which might be true for some people but in the end youâre attacking a strawman. Also there is no page 703, so when you say
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Iâm 100% serious.
I canât help but think the actual percentage of seriousness is much lower than that.
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thatâs more of an argument against infinite stash than against 2 more tabs.
Correct. I have no issue with 1 or 2 more tabs. My issue is with infinite storage.
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You also keep repeating that everyone who wants 2 more tabs actually wants infinite stash, which might be true for some people but in the end youâre attacking a strawman.
Because Iâve read enough of these âjust one moreâ threads to know that what Iâm arguing against is actually not a strawman. It might be true for some people that theyâd be happy with 1 or 2 more tabs, but for most who want more they actually want infinite. I was born on a friday, but it wasnât last week.
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Also there is no page 703
Iâm aware. Thereâs no page anything on this forum. It was a comment on how long this (and other) threads have been going.
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but since we are talking about less than 10 tabs in GD, thatâs more of an argument against infinite stash than against 2 more tabs
just gonna jump in with returning your own argument against you
âwhereâ
where do you see that all these âincrease stash requestâ is only about 2 tabs?
because i donât see those, i see the ones asking for more or even âinfiniteâ
-you even have OP expressly stating that just adding 2 more tabs indeed doesnât solve the issue in response to paikis (âthis should be baselineâ X-Mod-Hoarder-Legacy file - Grim UI mod for Grim Dawn - ModDB âadding one or two extra rows to thisâ)
so, where are you drawing the conclusion/âmaking the strawmanâ that this thread/these requests and types of requests being referred to, is âonly about a sober +2 tabsâ? - when you have people stating different or even outright asking for âinfiniteâ here?
*and to pre-empt this, this is not a counter argument about the "it will impact my gameplay"as response that Paikis is making, so donât make it about thatâŚ
Maybe just increase the inventory size a little bit, then made an unique inventory tab to store all craftable, cosumable, agument etc⌠that would be nice qol. For storage, just 1 or 2 more is good enough.
Increase inventory size? Maybe it would be enough if we could see all bags at the same time. Inventory would not be bigger, but weâd actually use all of it more often. Just like I suggested here: Utilise the available screen space better
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Correct. I have no issue with 1 or 2 more tabs. My issue is with infinite storage.
Which OP never asked for, they asked for a modern QoL improvement of the inventory system. Thatâs why I said you were attacking a strawman. Your initial quote from the other thread only makes sense for that thread where the OP actually asked for infinite stash space, but not here.
btw Iâm still curious why you think that more stash space would hurt your gameplay experience.