That’s a little weird…I mean, buffs and banners do help a lot and let builds get away with things they would otherwise struggle a lot more to get.
CC res comes to mind.
That being said, crate gives/takes simultaneously. Can’t complain with the new devotions.
As I said, you have missed A LOT of forum drama. It all has been discussed multiple times. Z. giveth Z. taketh away
Which damage type in your opinion has been hit the hardest / buffed the most?
Hard to say, it’s more about certain builds/archetypes that have been hit the most rather than damage types. But Bleeding probably has the best story: from having one glass cannon-ish Trickster archetype to making that Trickster absolute god but then nerfing everything about it to bits and pieces because of that one Trickster. Z. got so mad after I posted John Smith’s run with it that he steamed in my thread after that and then in like very short period of time a hotfix nerfing that spec came out.
Was this the DW bloodrager trickster (aka zoya the detroya)?
As for damage types, I actually feel that chaos has benefited tremendously.
Yeah, that the one. So many nerfs to Bloodrager set and dual Bloodsongs that Bloodsongs became like 4th best option for such build (and they used to be clear number 1).
True, Chaos has seen a lot of improvements but I still don’t touch it.
I don’t wanna add to the drama or suggest even a hint of disrespect, Valinov, but it doesn’t look like that to an outside observer. It looks more like SEARCH FORUMS: “5:**” => AUTONERF. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone’s build was nerfed after he wrote he made it at 5:15 o’clock lol (joke).
Examples: Pyran, Venomblade, Cataclysm. Op concern for his build is understandable. He did commit sub 6 after all.
Just to be thorough, that is also true.
Less popular pick here: Scorpion. 150 da shred on a T1… in a dmg type that has no flat da shred elsewhere… Defensively still Ghoul.
IMO cold was nerfed hardest overall. Really surprised Chillhearts weren’t nerfed this patch in the momentum. Or in general all elemental types because those nerfs are for all (devos and masteries) and not just single builds. As for buffs… hard to say. Most buffed mastery was arcanist so… aether maybe?
I don’t see what exactly was buffed about chaos… Abomination? Road there being better thx to Spider?
Speaking of nerfs&buffs, cold takes hit after hit. At least Korba set was buffed, but LA, Anatomy, Night’s embrace, DM set for starters. Chaos is still the worst damage type. It’s always looking fine on paper, especially with Abomination buff the DPS is insane, but in reality is still meh. Fire is the hot damage type I will say. Maybe lightning too?
They should really just add chaos RR to CoF and lower all the chaos RR for it in items. Crate has shown they’re not afraid to overload a skill with RR on when they buffed thermites. If they feel it’s too much then go remove bleed RR there. Occultist has never been a bleed class and bleed WB was only a thing because of the RR. We have oathkeeper as a substitute now.
I’d be surprised if fire isn’t hot. Lightning is kinda shocking tho.
Ofc Bat with Bwc mandatory. I tried with fiend but it’s impossible to stay close all the time and leech. Sometimes you have to leech from midrange.
I am not using light’s Oath. The build is very squishy and I have to make some defense compromises which i don’t like.
Initially I had half converted Tainted eruption too which was so cool. But nooooo, I have to get crap like solemn watcher 
I do not believe it would be nerfed. Yes if something is blatantly overpowered sure. But context is taken into account before nerfing. There are mutators, how squishy the build is, requring you to play well.
I don’;t think this build will be nerfd just as much as i don’t think dagallon will be nerfed.
Canister has already been nerfed like 4 times over in a dozen different ways. So I also think this will be left alone. Unless Spanks nails a perfect run at like 5:35 which is not quite impossible (Armored and Exposed at all 20 waves not just the last 10, no double heal-on-death basilisks at 163 which kinda went south in this vid…, no slow nemeses from top at 170, etc.).
Very nice job @sir_spanksalot ! I had this build on my list ever since ulzuin set rework. I lost my barrelsmith+light’s defender Elementalist and wanted to remake it, but did adversary version instead and didn’t have enough time to do this one aswell. Anyways your result looks solid with awesome crucible times, congrats!
Agreed. Cold damage is absolutely terribad now (except maybe for a few outliers I’m unaware of).
Harra’s set is garbage outside of PB, and rimetongue set cannot hope to compete with the new ulzuin set.
Regarding SJ harra: Biggest problem is that there’s no good weapon if you’re looking to focus on stun jacks. I tried making a build which was similar to OP by going hagarrad gloves + crescent moon, hoping to do a big jacks + grenado spam. However, lack of relevant %damage from demo class hits hard as hell. Only other class which can give relevant %damage is… (i) NB - but as you said, LA has been hit hard + is pita to use, (ii) Shaman - but elementalist is still weak, (iii) Sorc - but lack of dual RR + %cold damage from both classes is very tangible.
Regarding CT Harra: lol…set is clearly designed to go for a CT spam, but CT is a shite skill in the late game, unless you go for transmuted CT + inferno. But it’s also impossible to hardcap inferno using the set, and unlike vanquisher which has a %total damage modifier to CT, harra doesn’t provide sufficient buffs to CT.
Rimetongue: Outdated set which needs looking into imo. For a cold damage set designed for the demo, fire --> pierce conversion hits it hard. This was fine pre FG because we didn’t have enough fire/cold conversion anyway, but that isn’t the case anymore.
OA/DA for cold builds: Same story as acid damage. M. chains of night fire SHOULD give OA/DA imo. That alone hinders the cold demo significantly. And I don’t see why it shouldn’t be given OA/DA. Many other belts with 50% conversion have it…
Then there are other non-set based cold builds like cold PRM…but they kinda fall short because it’s quite hard to stack cold RR, and many annoying nems have high cold RR.
regarding chaos damage…
I’m by no means insinuating that it’s now a top tier damage type. But looking at where it was before, it’s gotten MANY buffs. It’s even possible to get >110% RR on a dual mastery without any innate RR (i.e. warlock).
Biggest problem with chaos damage is the lack of skills IMO. You have exceptions like darkblaze FS, and fluff’s DB spam, but really…you’ve got nothing else. Even with my 2H, 98% WD tainted flame deceiver ([1.1.1.2] Supah Hot Fiah - 98% WD 2H tainted flames deceiver (75+, Naked cruci, 276k dps)) damage is mediocre at best. And this can be explained by 3 things - i. shit medals + boots for chaos damage, ii. clunkiness of FoI, iii. and low base fire damage on FoI skill itself.
I did a cold spam CT harra set sorc. It’s absolutely terrible and the worst build I have ever done. Even fire skeletons defiler is better than that. Harra needs BIG buffs outside of PB imo. Spam CT in general probably need some buffs aswell, but idk how good aether and chaos spam CT are exactly.
Best CT build was probably old school agrivix made by x1x2. But it relied mostly on perfect aether conversion and procs from devotions/items to wreck face.
Now agrivix set is in a weird spot. My suggestion is actually to flip the conversion on the amulet to aether --> fire conversion. Make it a predominant vindictive flame set.
We should probably make a proper CT feedbacl thread to get Zentai’s attention and to convince him that spam is currently in a similar spot to spam Blade Arc (before the last couple of buffs) and it needs a similar treatment imo.
You didn’t know binder is back, huh
It was always shit and was only used in old N&O builds (not even full set) because there wasn’t any better alternative. Nowadays bonemonger outclasses it completely.
Cold was never really great as a damage type. Nightblade doesn’t have an exclusive. one class with cold exclusive doesn’t have RR, and the other one is fully lightning focused. It’s advantage was that their strongest sets and skills were OP. Once they were nerfed we get here now
^jedi_d made a rimetongue purifier which could take farm pre-FG 170 without any greens IIRC.
I guess the TL;DR takeaway of my very subjective opinion is…
IF 1 or 2 cold sets are indeed overperforming, then sure. Nerf them. But by and large, cold damage needs some lovin’. Rimetongue and Harra comes to mind.
Chaos damage needs better skills. I messed around with voidsoul aegis, and it was garbage.
Just watched your binder video…where is the single target DPS coming from?
Cool build!
What about new Blood Pact+Stormfire? Or is your explosives spam downtime too small to make it worth it here
Um… Kuba legguards+Inscribed bracers? 
But yeah, the results suck pretty bad. I tried a few versions of Harra’s CT a while ago; best one for me was an Inferno+SJ frostburn focused one with Chillspikes spam I believe…
That’s exactly what I was wondering when trying CT spam Harra 